WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



BRANDED 10:19 Mon Jun 24
Re: Israel Folau
It came from the troubles in Northern Ireland.

zebthecat 10:18 Mon Jun 24
Re: Israel Folau
Kaiser Zoso 10:15 Mon Jun 24

Nope. Just a description of a point that is completely irrelevant to the debate at hand. Rather like yours as it happens.

P.S. I don't do Twitter

Kaiser Zoso 10:15 Mon Jun 24
Re: Israel Folau
Is whataboutery the latest word people use to attempt to make themselves look proper divs?

I’m guessing Twitter?

zebthecat 10:09 Mon Jun 24
Re: Israel Folau
Sydney_Iron 8:21 Mon Jun 24

Weapons grade whataboutery and utter imaginary bollocks to boot.

wansteadman 9:54 Mon Jun 24
Re: Israel Folau
The problem is there is a standard of thought that you’re not allowed to challenge.
If you think millions of people coming into this country is not a great idea keep your mouth shut or you’re a racist.
If you think women getting jobs etc in front on men purely because they are females keep quiet
If you think homosexuality is wrong keep quiet
Etc etc

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 9:54 Mon Jun 24
Re: Israel Folau
Sven Roeder 8:47 Mon Jun 24

'Personally I don't have a problem with anyone fundraising on one of these sites.
I was just questioning why the multi millionaire Folau was doing it'

My very thoughts.

cholo 9:51 Mon Jun 24
Re: Israel Folau
Hopefully he'll leave born again Christianity behind and become a drunk womaniser again, might be far less tedious.

Sven Roeder 8:47 Mon Jun 24
Re: Israel Folau
A lot of what abouts and what ifs there
I am not aware of what the rules are on these sites as what for and who can ask for money.

Personally I don't have a problem with anyone fundraising on one of these sites.
I was just questioning why the multi millionaire Folau was doing it

Sydney_Iron 8:21 Mon Jun 24
Re: Israel Folau
Sven, Just to be clear...........

i dont agree with what Falou said, but i do believe in freedom of speech etc, he may well have breached his contract, what i dont like about this is he sets up a go fund me page and they shut it down, IMO as they got scared of losing advertisers in the current "dont offend the gays" world we live in, cowards..........

Had the ball been on the other foot and a high profile gay sportsman had made anti christian comments on social media, lost there job contract because of it and then set up a go fund me page, only to see it shut down the LGBT community would be screaming discrimination, homophobia and double standards.

As you were.........

Sven Roeder 7:59 Mon Jun 24
Re: Israel Folau
Just to be clear for you & Israel (presuming you aren’t him) ....
Abusing people on the basis of their race, skin colour or sexual preference isn’t acceptable
Disagreeing with their life CHOICES ie adultery , sex before marriage, watching EastEnders etc is up to you. Though it’s not really any of your business
You can argue alcoholism is a disease so if condemning ill people to hell is how your Christianity rolls then knock yourself out.

Sydney_Iron 7:33 Mon Jun 24
Re: Israel Folau
His go fund me page has been shut down, all money to be returned to those who donated it.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-24/israel-folau-gofundme-campaign-deleted/11240354

When it comes to criticising or having views on Gays they dont like, everyone turns against you, ironic thing is he also had a pop at alcoholics, sex before marriage and adultery, along the same lines of burning in hell etc, but no one has kicked up a fuss or got offended by that, its all perfectly acceptable its just the gay comments he is getting cunted for???

percyd 5:50 Mon Jun 24
Re: Israel Folau
Interesting paradox that Folau is so fond of taking the Bible literally yet seems to have overlooked the bit about it being easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.

Dowies Love Child 3:35 Mon Jun 24
Re: Israel Folau
His GoFundMe page has been shut down and the funds have been refunded as he is deemed to have breached the organisations terms and conditions.

As the statement that we live in a world of freedom of speech, we do and he can say whatever he wants. However, we do not live in a world of freedom from consequences for what we say as Mr Folau has discovered.

Sven Roeder 10:19 Sat Jun 22
Re: Israel Folau
Exactly
But as shown in the recent election there are more than enough right wing half wits in Australia who completely agree with Folau and will give the multimillionaire money.
Most would call themselves Christian too

This could be a good little earner for Folau

East Auckland Hammer 10:11 Sat Jun 22
Re: Israel Folau
https://twitter.com/drew_mitchell/status/1141907784344035329?s=19

This a good example of that Sven.

Sven Roeder 10:10 Sat Jun 22
Re: Israel Folau
Apart from the laws against racial abuse or that based on someone’s sexual orientation he has signed a contract that presumably sets out that the Aust rugby union is inclusive and doesn’t tolerate discrimination etc etc blah blah blah.
If he didn’t think he could keep to that he didn’t need to sign his multimillion dollar contract.
I’m sure lots of people have views in breach of the positions set out in their employment contracts but they keep them to themselves and their associates and don’t plaster them all over social media.
And then do it again when picked up on it a year previously.

Charoo 9:48 Sat Jun 22
Re: Israel Folau
We live in a world of Free speech apparently.

Fair play to him for voicing his beliefs - why the fuck shouldn’t he - every other cunt does.

Sven Roeder 9:42 Sat Jun 22
Re: Israel Folau
It’s all very Christian isn’t it?
I understand many of his former teammates and opponents are calling him out as a cunt.
He gave the rugby union no choice and they have acted appropriately
The fact that people have donated however does not surprise me.

East Auckland Hammer 9:36 Sat Jun 22
Re: Israel Folau
And he's got 5 or 6 million in properties too.

Tell you Israel, sell them to fund your campaign, and if you need more THEN ask for donations.

He's also got a disclaimer on his site which basically says they don't have to use any, or all of the money for legal fees.

Might go and start one myself.

Sven Roeder 9:20 Sat Jun 22
Re: Israel Folau
Someone pointed out to me that his fundraising page was along side those of people trying to raise money for treatment for kids with cancer etc
But let’s all give the multi millionaire bigot some cash to spread his hate shit.
He signed a contract and agreed to abide by the social policies of the rugby union. And was given a pass when he acted the cunt previously.

Sydney_Iron 8:15 Sat Jun 22
Re: Israel Folau
Half a million dollars has been raised to help sacked rugby star and committed Christian Israel Folau “stand up for the word of God” in his legal fight against Rugby Australia.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/folau-hits-500k-in-donations-as-7m-property-empire-revealed/news-story/7d6a9d22dd33b5190d52f1efff03f7d1

Seems he has quite a war chest to go after Rugby Australia, never agreed with what he said, but also never agreed that he should have been sacked because of it, seems anyone who says anything against gays or trans genders is immediately ridiculed, he also had a pop at other aspects of life like adultery and pre marriage sex, but that was all ok!

Good luck to him....

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